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White also would not identify him. She said the couple are in the preliminary stages of applying for permission to marry. They still must meet with the prison chaplain and obtain the approval of the superintendent who submits the request to a committee for a recommendation.

A spokesman for Danmark says that any profits from the book will go to the state of Oregon under a law passed in the wake of the Downs case.

But Rule says the truth that she observed in the nine-month trial was a guilty Downs, who was pregnant at the time with a child who was subsequently put up for adoption.

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Scaled Prison Fence Advertisement. The two mental disorders that cause excessive talking are Bipolar Disorder and Schizophrenia. If Diane was bipolar, the non-stop chatter would have been inherent to the situation.

And the flat affect and sometimes inappropriate smiling would come with the territory so you cannot judge her actions without taking into account that she might not have been acting according to the norms.

It had nothing to do with the evidence of the case and represents useless labeling anyway. Lack of impulse control is also another symptom that might explain why a mother would stop at night to help a stranger flagging her on the road.

In one of them, he knew her name and in another one, she had answered a call and been told to meet someone. It should have raised a red flag concerning her mental stability or the possibility that more people were involved.

Christie Downs. Christie could not speak but after some rehab, she said repeatedly that she did not know who shot them. The powers that be knew they had nothing on Diane so Christie became their sacrificial lamb.

Even Ann Rule in her book, keeps mentioning that they only had a few months to get Christie to talk, otherwise they could not keep her away from her mother any longer.

Three weeks after the crime, Judge Foote from family courts, removed Danny and Christie from the care of Diane Downs and her family.

The notes taken daily by the nurses became a point of contention at trial. It seems that a lot of what was written down never came up during testimony and some nurses even strayed from the original content.

Movie scene alleging that Christie was scared. There were days she was unhappy to see the staff and her family because she was very ill.

That poor girl had a lot of bad moments where she would cry constantly or trigger the machines and to have defined this single incident as one of terror instead of excitement over seeing her mom was biased and self-serving.

All smoke and mirrors to fit a certain scenario. In fact, Diane and her lawyer wanted Christie to be able to heal before being questioned and to be accompanied and taped during the sessions.

A very reasonable request that was rejected. It became judicial kidnapping to obtain a coerced confession.

What about the terror of being interrogated by strangers and separated from her family? They sure forgot to tell us about her pulse racing during these sessions.

Christie was only eight, had suffered gunshot wounds and was in shock. She had been isolated from her whole family and being unethically interrogated.

It was not unlike brainwashing. According to her hospital records, every 6 hours she was given milligrams of Dilantin which is noted for causing confusion.

The prescribed normal dosage for a full grown man is 30 milligrams per day. Phenobarbital was administered alongside the Dilantin.

Every time, she said she did not know, they told her to think again and made suggestions. To have separated Christie from her brother and the rest of the family to be able to get her mom was unconscionable.

Fred Hugi. There is no way that a jury would convict Diane today, based on the clearly coached testimony of Christie.

It took months to get Christie to say that her mother was the culprit and that is when they arrested Diane. Everything was in the bag and ready for trial.

The fact that she and her brother Danny were eventually adopted by Fred Hugi who prosecuted Diane Downs is the most blatant case of conflict of interest I have ever heard of.

Even if I have no doubt that Hugi loved the kids, we have to wonder why he adopted them two years later just when little Christie started saying she had no clue who shot them.

Considering the circumstances, it is difficult not to be a bit cynical about this grand gesture. One should also wonder why their biological father who was so eager to bash his ex on the stand was not given custody, and did not stay in contact with his two remaining children.

Or why the fact that he was a con artist made him such a credible guy in this case. Instead, it is Diane who fought to keep her children.

The trial. Judge Gregory Foote. He hired Jim Jagger on the 1st of June , 11 days after the shooting. Diane was in the hospital for a bone graft from June 2nd until June 6th, He gave temporary custody to Dr.

Standards of conduct are defined by state law, but they generally require a judge to avoid appearances of impropriety, such as avoiding deciding a dispute in which the judge is personally involved in the issue at stake or has a relationship to one of the parties.

They had him micromanaged, and with the testimony of little Christie they were in business. James C.

It turned out to be a mistake because he was married to a County Circuit Court Judge who would become a colleague of Foote and he had no intention of defending Diane vigorously.

You wondered at times, which side he was working for. Click here to read the complaint. Melvin Belli — How things could have been different.

Downs must have had a bad feeling about Jagger because before trial, he tried to retain defense attorney Melvin Belli who had the reputation of fighting for his clients and to win all his cases.

The prosecutor would gently shake his head and the good judge would follow with a ruling. We could say that it was suggestive on his part, but considering how this trial was conducted, I tend to believe it happened.

Foote refused 30 to 50 reports by detectives of sightings or leads about the shooter but admitted reports from people in Arizona willing to badmouth Diane.

It appeared rigged and the fact that Ann Rule sat in the courtroom ready to produce a Masterpiece of Guilt could only help the prosecution.

The gun. According to the State, ballistics evidence proved that Diane Downs was guilty. During closing arguments, Fred Hugi said that the murder weapon used by Diane was a Ruger, and the state had the model number and the bill of sale.

That same gun turned up at a police raid years later in Perris, California, and it did not match the ballistics from the shooting site.

Ruger ; described as the gun used by Diane and belonging to Steve Downs, was not the murder weapon. They came up with an explanation as to why this was the wrong gun but the jig was up.

Steve Downs had allegedly stolen this gun from a friend named Billy Proctor, but after it was found and the ballistics did not match, Bill suddenly remembered keeping it only for a day before exchanging it for another Ruger automatic at a gun show in Mesa; which now meant that the gun that Diane allegedly used to shoot herself and the children, was still apparently nowhere to be found.

Considering that the marks on the lethal bullets did not fit the bullet fingerprinting found in the rifle, this gun switcheroo was a good save for the state, but did not support the theory presented at trial either.

The very suspicious aspect of this ballistic saga is that Hugi said they had the bill of sale and serial number for the first Ruger and it was definitely the murder weapon.

If, as Proctor said, it was exchanged right away, and the other Ruger was subsequently stolen by Steven, how was it remotely possible for him to have this info?

A demonstration in court strongly suggested that the shooter had to be left-handed to have been able to shoot in the car at the right angle.

Diane was right-handed. Fingerprints at the crime scene were not produced by the State. James Haynes. Police witness reports of strangers and confessions were suppressed or not pursued.

It deserved as much attention as a Unicorn, a song or all the other hearsay floating around because at least, they came from real people signing official documents.

In fact, Diane had consulted a psychologist after the tragedy and after months of consultation, she was never diagnosed as a sociopath.

She did diagnose her as suffering from cyclothymic disorder and treated her accordingly. She signed an affidavit to that effect and wanted the jury informed of it but it was never done.

As soon as Diane was found guilty, Hugi demanded that Diane be evaluated by a psychiatrist before sentencing so they could declare her a dangerous offender and give her a stiffer sentence.

George Suckow. And Hugi seemed pretty sure he would get what he was asking for. So when Dr. It gave Anne Rule carte blanche to legally use these labels in her book and it stuck.

Mission accomplished. The unicorn and Hungry like the Wolf. A unicorn, nothing but a unicorn. It was omnipresent in the courtroom as well as the Duran Duran song Hungry like the Wolf that supposedly was playing when the children were shot in the car.

According to Rule and the court, the unicorn was a memorial to her children that she purchased after premeditating their murder. There is absolutely no evidence that Hungry like the Wolf was playing when Christie got shot but it is another detail they added to bring a dramatic element to this trial.

They played the tape in the courtroom, and the fact that Diane did not break down but tapped her foot to the music, was supposed to be another proof of her guilt.

Ann Rule book signing. In fact, if someone was Hungry like the Wolf in this courtroom, it was a certain crime author who could already smell and taste the fortune coming her way after the publication of this juicy story.

Fred Hugi was pretty upset when Ann Rule went Hollywood with his case. I guess he did not want too many people to know about the improprieties that happened in his courtroom.

But he overestimated the kind of people that would go along with this soap opera. They were not truth seekers and enjoyed a nice burning at the stake instead.

Too bad she did not interview Diane or her family. Brave Becky Babcock. Rule even talked about writing a book about her but it never materialized.

It probably was not salacious enough for her readers that she polled online to establish if there was enough interest in the story to fill her pockets with a definite blockbuster.

They should have stayed out of it instead of contributing to her revictimization. The foreseeable verdict. Diane was cooked the minute she walked in that courtroom.

Evidence or not, they were going to do their best to put her away for life. And their plan worked.

Christie became the star witness against her mother and who could resist such a touching testimony? Her lover and former husband testified against her but it did not represent evidence but character assassination.

And it is not like these two were white as snow. Robert K. If personal diaries were to be believed, half of the population would be in great jeopardy.

Nuts maybe, but not threatening. I guess Diane forgot to have that part engraved on the Unicorn. Diane was pregnant during the trial so if found not guilty, how would she have regained the love of her life?

Their theory was very shaky. I do not care if the bushy haired stranger made no sense or if they could not explain the why of the tragedy, I do not care if she was madly in love with a guy because all that counts is proof and evidence in a court of law, and there was definitely a reasonable doubt.

The circumstances surrounding the case were not enough to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. The Jury. The jury verdict was guilty on all counts, but there was a mixture of votes.

On the single count of murder, the jurors needed a unanimous decision. What was the rationale behind this?

The judge instructed them to continue on to force a verdict. I personally disagree with that practice but it is common.

I have plans to go hunting with the husband of one of the alternates. They brought cakes and cookies and became friends so they were not going to fight over this.

Kumbaya my Lord, Kumbaya. But in their defense, they were told at trial what gun was used by Diane to shoot the kids and it must have been very difficult to overcome the emotions brought on by the words of little Christie even if it was pretty obvious during her testimony that she was confused and unreliable.

During cross-examination, she said that she witnessed the murders while sitting up and that Cheryl was sitting up on the front seat when she got shot.

Diane said that Cheryl was laying down on the front floorboard with the passenger seat pushed back. Cheryl was shot twice in the back and one of the bullets ended up on the floorboard.

She could not have been shot twice in the back while sitting up and have the bullet pierce her body to end up under the floorboard of the passenger side.

There was no blood on the front seats so Cheryl was laying down and Christie was asleep laying down and never witnessed anything. Instead, there is blood splatter on the ceiling of the car.

Criminalist James Pex was pretty clear about this. The way Christie was coached did not correspond to the reality of the direct evidence.

The Aftermath. Years later, Christie was heard saying by classmates that she did not know who shot her. There is also a recording where she says that she had no idea who shot them.

The tape is real and probably not admissible, but it seems to indicate that her testimony was coerced. Caught in the act, Hugi declared that Christie only said that because she was pressed for an answer.

How ironic. Of course, because this is what she does when people put her on the spot and ask questions concerning her mother and the shooting. After all, she was conditioned this way.

One of them named Angel, called year-old Christie on the phone. Diane was found guilty and sentenced to life and she has been in prison ever since.

She was in solitary confinement for years and even escaped from prison once but was recaptured. In , a psych evaluation by L.

Williams, Ph. Downs makes every effort to avoid emotional stimuli in order to reduce the demands made on her. She functions best in highly structured environments where she has a sense of control.

She may be highly vulnerable to losing control of her emotions in emotionally charged situations, creating faulty judgment and ineffective and inappropriate behavior.

Diane in front of parole board. As far as her innocence goes and the possibility of being paroled if she admitted her crime, Diane strongly maintains her innocence.

It would not benefit you, my children, or society for me to perpetuate that lie. I did not shoot my children.

She goes on to say that she has deep regret and mourns the loss and death of her children. If it was not such a high profile case, Diane Downs would have been paroled a long time ago, considering her good behavior and lack of priors.

The Parole Board had an obligation to parole Diane between and if she could provide reasonable cause to show she was not a danger to society.

But the Parole Board refused to hear her. She then went through the State Circuit Court habeas corpus relief for four years to no avail.

She is nowhere near being paroled and if she admitted guilt, I am not even convinced they would release her.

Her case was too public and they are afraid of public backlash. Diane Downs and Alice Crummins were considered sluts and cold-blooded women and were judged on their unusual character.

It became more about despising Diane Downs than investigating fairly. They were traumatized and needed familiar faces to feel safe.

So the hell with no gun, no GSR, no blood and no witnesses except a sick child who denied knowing who shot them until she could not anymore and happened to be adopted by the prosecutor; making it look like she could never change her mind and reveal that she has no memory of the shooting and maybe have the case reversed.

The State had the same gut feeling and made sure she would pay. Substituting reasonable inference and evidence for tarot cards? She had the right to a fair trial as much as anyone else out there.

It appears that you have to be a perfect mother with no lovers and not afflicted with any mental illness to be considered innocent until proven guilty in America.

Farrah had trouble with the law because of a passionate love affair with a movie director. So if we started judging people harshly for their flaws, it would never end.

A trial should be based on facts and solid direct or circumstantial evidence. She has done her time in prison and I hope that she gets the chance to get out and spend time with her mother and siblings.

Her father passed away in October after having fought relentlessly for her release. Anne Rule might have inflamed the case with her book Small Sacrifices and her theory of the crime, but in reality, the case of Diane Downs was no small sacrifice.

The price of celebrity for her was losing her freedom and her children for life. It does not get any bigger than this.

Why doesnt the innocent project get involved with her case. Barry Sheck and bis crew of investigators should get involved.

This really makes me angry, that prosecuter and judge should be sued along with the writter. The innocence project gets so many requests and they have limited resources.

Maybe because of her notoriety and the victims were children. It was such a high profile case and she was found guilty by the media and the court so people are afraid to touch this one.

At the very least, she should have been released by now. I do have to take issue with this article about Diane Downs. Not meaning to sound disrespectful, but you seem to be doing what you accuse Ann Rule of doing.

Leaving out a lot of info that should be included and presenting a very one sided take on these things. You said that the absence of both prove she couldnt have been to shooter and you claim it takes real scrubbing to remove GSR.

GSR can easily fall off just by brushing your hand against a surface. It is also very is to clean.

There are documented cases of suicides where the person has no GNR, as well as murder cases. Lack of blood spatter is not evidence of innocence Especially when a shooter is leaning in and shooting into a box car while standing outside.

And how the letters became so bizarre, paranoid and psychotic that she told Diane to stop writing her.

But you dont mention that she again has changed her story. She never mentioned that before, and she doesnt mention the FBI agents name.

Seems to me that if that part of the story were true, and she really wanted to find her childrens shooter, she would have provided that information.

A long long time ago. Problem with that is Diane has said during an interview with detectives that the sketch looks nothing like what she described.

She even provided the police with her own sketch. Saying that I seem to be doing what I accuse Ann Rule of doing is kind of ironic because the point of this blog is to try to stay away from innuendo and fantasies like unicorns and songs that might have been playing or not during a tragic murder.

But I will answer the points you raised about the blog. Additionally, homicide or assault victims shot by someone else can test positive for GSR.

They did a trace metal test to see if Diane had held a gun. It was positive only on a small portion of her upper hand where she said the gun touched her when she wrestled with the attacker a detail she had mentioned before they did the test.

So there was a transfer, but nothing else was found. She did not have the opportunity to clean her hands with the right product to erase all traces and she was tested pretty fast, contrary to many other cases.

She had one arm totally out of commission. Moreover, it was not a suicide case, but of a woman who supposedly shot herself in the arm and her 3 children several times.

So it would be logical to conclude that it would have left residues if anyone had shot at least 6 times. According to the state, the shooter was well inside the car and would have had gun powder on its clothing, body or hair if 3 people were shot in the car at close distance.

The car was splattered with blood, but Diane had none on her. They examined her clothes also. It was obvious to the cops and the prosecution because they proceeded to get her daughter to testify against her because they had nothing to prove she was the shooter.

Not even the gun. I agree with your comment. But in this case, she had no blood on her body or her clothing. So she could not have shot her kids at the distance determined by the state unless she changed her clothing and it did not come up at trial.

The interpretation of blood splatter is different than no blood splatter. Maybe I should have elaborated more about this comment. But my beef is with the interference by the media, TV shows and Ann Rule.

They should have left her alone. What would have been the conclusion to have drawn without this hate campaign? Her daughter told the media she watched Small Sacrifices several times.

I care about what was said at trial. And I care about the lack of evidence. And according to the law, she should have been released by now, independently of what she says or not.

The only reason they kept her in prison even if she had all the right documentation and support, is because she is high profile.

Once again, Diane said a lot of things. But the guy who said to several people that he was the shooter happens to resemble the sketch they came up with at the time for a reason.

But if you compare them, and if stranger there was, there are similarities but it is not dead on. So should I put an addendum saying that Diane contradicted herself or was not satisfied with the sketch?

Or that the sketch did not resemble the suspect enough? So either way, it would not be so far fetched that someone said he was the shooter. A little investigation would not hurt.

The cops admitted that they never investigated the tips about a bushy haired stranger. You need real evidence in court.

What matters to me is that her rights were trampled during her trial. And that Ann Rule took advantage of the situation to sell her book.

What they did to her daughter is unconscionable. They should have taken the time necessary to find enough evidence. If she was the shooter, it had to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

And if the fact that cops lied about the gun to close the deal did not bother you, it bothered me because this is not due process. I might not have put enough information to your liking, but I stuck to what came out at trial and not the fantasy factory coming from the state, the media and Rule.

Meaning a trial where lying or failing to disclose exculpatory evidence by prosecutors is not happening. In a perfect world this would always be the case.

This case certainly had its share of circumstantial evidence. The circumstances surrounding the crimes against these innocent children demand to be used as evidence…..

My comment to you Lise is about your reply to a previous comment where you say Diane should have been released by now regardless of her statements.

While that makes her technically eligible for parole at some point in her case it does not actually mean she has an end date or a release date.

In fact, with her continuing to deny committing the crime or expressing remorse, she may never get out. Open ended sentences like this are meant to provide a means of control and public safety when considering dangerous offenders who may pose a continued risk to the public.

Is Diane really a threat anymore? In her case it seems to be more a matter of punishment. I also found it curious that when Diane was first eligible for parole she was allowed to apply every 2 years thereafter until she either gets paroled or dies in prison.

But due to a law enacted in Oregon after she first became eligible for parole, she can now only apply every 10 years. This seems very punitive to have a law like this be retroactive.

The point is our trials need to be conducted fairly and based on evidence. Someone found guilty of a crime should have a sentence that can be served and not one that is contingent on the remorse shown.

If a person were innocent of the crime they were convicted of this puts them in a no-win situation. My problem with the circumstances surrounding the crimes against these innocent children is that they were twisted by the media.

She was no mother of the year and in the car when the kids got shot. So obviously, she was the prime suspect. Her character was also too much on the forefront.

And once again, considering that she was diagnosed as bipolar, did not help her cause. But the fact that the prosecutor called her a deviant sociopath in court without any assessment became another nail in her coffin.

Someone said to me that any of us, if scrutinized under a microscope, would come out looking pretty bad.

So imagine when you are troubled to begin with. Diane had met all the requirements to be paroled. And other inmates were released with worst backgrounds.

At the time, among 49 prisoners denied parole, the board had given only four inmates, including Downs, a year wait. So it looks and sounds like she is getting special treatment because of her notoriety.

The board said that her mental or emotional disorder makes her a danger to society. They seem to say she was like that from the very beginning so in my opinion, it should represent a mitigating circumstance instead of a longer sentence.

She had no priors and no history of violence in prison. And her mental health should definitely have been a factor to release her with follow up care.

All the reports and even the warden thought she was not a threat anymore. And she would have been under supervision. But showing no remorse is part of claiming her innocence and part of the vicious circle of parole hearings.

I know that most people think she is guilty. And even when confronted by the wrongful practices used at trial to get her convicted, are ok with her being locked up for life.

The detectives and the state failed to act properly and it should not be an accepted practice. I am not her advocate, but I think she did not get due process.

She should have had the lawyer of her choice and if they wanted to charge her with the crimes, they should have stuck with what evidence and circumstances they had.

The fact that they used her daughter and lied about the gun they could never find makes it a wrongful conviction. No matter how horrible people think she is.

I do not discuss her guilt or innocence because this is not what the blog is about, but I personally hope she is released one day. If the police department had done their job properly, I would not have written this blog, no matter the outcome.

I think u need to read the facts. She was not in the car when her children were shot. She says she was outside the car n watched the man shoot her children n then the only adult n person who could tell police about him only gets a shot in the arm n takes time to bandage her arm.

U seem very one sided on every case Ann Rule has ever written just as u claim she did to u. Ur not showing facts that Ann Rule lied n misled n ruined lives with.

N u pleaded guilty of murdering ur husband. Was that Annes fault as well? Tracy, I never said she was in the car. The person who shot the kids was leaning inside the car because they were shot at close range.

I am not one sided. I try to bring out the details that were ignored because Down was so unpopular. I am not saying that Diane was a saint or Ann Rule a demon.

Do not take this so personally. I write about cases where due process is in question and important aspects were ignored or twisted.

The case was so one sided that it is about time some of us bring up the other side. They would have welcomed them with open arms.

Diane Downs changed her story so many times, even at her parole hearing. Diane Downs is guilty beyond any doubt and I do not believe that her daughter was coached.

I am sorry the meaning of nonsense evades you like the facts of the case in this instance. This article is about due process and the legal right to a fair trial for everyone.

Diane Downs is no exception. What man has ever publicly revered a former secret mistress? The chief prosecutor adopting the children beggars belief!

I have no idea whether or not she was guilty of the crime. This is an extremely tragic case and her children at the very least deserve justice.

Once you are vilified in the media in the US, the way Downs and others have been, a lot of people shut their eyes and their mind to any other possibility than what was presented in the court of public opinion.

The fact that the accused in this case was atypical, makes her the perfect target. Her children deserved the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

It was very unfair to raise them away from their grandparents and other blood relatives. How ironic that the court and cops were so quick to believe Steve Downs, but he gave up on his own children after the tragedy.

Instead, the person accused of attacking them and wanting them out of her life, fought for them. They believed the testimony of her former boyfriends who were far from stellar individuals.

Ann Rule did not leave a great legacy as far as honest reporting goes, and she is not the only one to have commercialized a criminal case for personal gain.

What mother takes her kids out at night and then stops for a stranger with her kids in the car? She threw her keys yet was able to take off right away??

When you hear her in interviews she sounds more concerned with herself than her kids. Hi Nanette, it is not a matter of being gullible.

During a trial, we have to go with evidence only. The character of the accused is not the main ingredient, especially that in this case, there was a lot of bashing going on in the media and in court.

A prosecutor inventing a new psychiatric category in court and labeling the accused is kind of unsettling. There was a lot of evidence pointing at OJ.

Blood, cuts, limo driver who saw him come in, the shoe print, the blood in the car and on the socks in his bedroom. It goes on and on. And he was found not guilty because his defense team played the race card in an area of LA where they did not trust the police and discussed EDTA and DNA ad nauseam to confuse the jurors.

But in the case of DD, there were a lot of elements missing. Did she act like a average person? But she suffered from mental illness and the circumstances were traumatic.

No gun, no blood or gun residue on her and if she shot them, these elements should have been there. It should have been investigated further.

Their haste to go to trial created this mess and lingering doubts. In an earlier comment you stated that Diane had met all of the requirements for parole.

I was curious as to what these requirements were, as I have not seen these online. I think that the time she has served and her good behavior made her eligible for parole.

She was a first time offender who has shown no violent tendencies and is afflicted with a mental illness. She would have been released under strict conditions with the support of her family and under the care of a mental health specialist.

The media keeps talking about several escapes, but there was only one. It was half baked escape plans that were more in her head than anything and that the media enjoyed blowing out of proportions.

And she laughed at it by saying it was healthy to want to join the free world, especially if you proclaim your innocence. When they recaptured her, she was very docile.

Being bipolar, she had no impulse control so it should not have surprised anyone. She never hurt anyone in the process of escaping.

When they assess the conduct of an inmate, what counts is mostly how she behaves inside through the years and if she shows violent tendencies.

Downs was constantly provoked by inmates because of the nature of her situation, and she never once attacked or defended herself in a violent manner.

Even if they say that she did not get involved in rehabilitation programs, she did participate, but obviously did not admit to killing her daughter and injuring the others.

It was cited that she keeps her emotions close to the vest. And to say that her mental health has degraded is an understatement, but more reason not to keep her eternally incarcerated.

High profile cases usually do not get the same treatment as regular folks. And if you claim your innocence, it obviously creates a vicious circle of not showing contrition.

Leslie Van Houten is an example of a woman who probably will never see the light of day because of her high profile status. Thank you Lise. I had never heard of this case and fell upon several videos that had me completely convinced DD was a narcissistic psychopath.

Seeing her giggle and laugh during a videoed reconstruction gave me, as a mother, a sickening feeling. BUT like you rightly explain, there was no real evidence of her guilt.

Ask them what they did to a good man. Why is there virtually no info on him? My website is in the process of being migrated so it has no photos.

I am glad you read it anyway and I appreciate your comment. From what we know about Becky, she had chosen a difficult path and Diane was trying to warn her.

But as usual, it was slanted in the worst possible way. In this article, we can clearly see that Becky struggled and tried to justify her woes maybe rightly so by blaming it on her DNA.

But in my opinion, it shows how Diane was disturbed and could also have found a better path in life if given the chance and the right support.

It sounds like Diane was trying to tell her to stay away from bad influences. And of course, she added her own brand of paranoia, which is to be expected considering her personality disorder and what she went through.

So she warns her to stay away. The crucial point is that she is so void of emotion. Thanks again. I agree. Her flat affect is even more pronounced now and it did her in at the time, but she was lucid enough to clearly see that Rule and the media used Becky for their personal gain.

Sad situation. I think it posible she brought the kids there to be shot by someone else. May be the guy who says he did it. Just a thought.

No other shooter involved in her case. The bitches own daughter identified Downs as the shooter.

She should of been sentenced to death. The prosecutor and his wife adopted both children that survived and although the boy is paralyzed and in a wheelchair, they trived with their new parents.

Maybe you should read the blog before commenting. So the prosecutor adopted the kids? I am publishing your comment because once in a while, I need to post the pitiful representation of true crime readers who made Anne Rule a rich author.

I am interested in the truth. Insulting a woman in prison since 30 years instead of debating the inconsistencies of this case is pretty pathetic.

Ffs maybe u should go back to writing screenplays. Devoting ur life to taking down a dead author is a waste of ur talents.

Did u learn nothing?? I was being sarcastic. And by the way, I wrote the blogs about Rule way before she passed. Anyways, I was 10 years old when this happened, I stayed with my aunt and uncle a lot in those years, in which they watched A LOT of nightly news programs….

It kinda scared me, the thought that mommy could shoot me, like this mommy did. I had to investigate this. I went on ebay and ordered multiple stuff from the 80s, news footage, just to hear what she sounded like, because of all the talk in the book about her demeanor.

I found nothing. Surely before Diane downs, there were other mothers who killed their kids.. Tis why at 10 years old I was hearing about this case in Ohio, and family members talked about it around me….

Now in hindsight, seeing footage on youtube, especially the interview she did with the reporter Anne Jagger, the things she says and facial expression is exactly described in the book…had to find the section in the book, but on that note, Anne rule did site that interview correctly.

Also on old footage of the trial, as there was no cameras aloud, the drawing of Christie Downs from court artist also complies with the testimony given in the book, as far as her pain and crying.

I say these things if I were on the jury. Again I go back to how times were back then. I base a lot on what I see and hear from her in her own words in footage of a 28 yr old woman.

Just similar stuff…. So yes I think she did it, I think ration left her a long before she did it…I think post pardum played in this, I think, she was scattered all over the map….

The gun is Def a big issue, the style of gun, whether it belonged to him or her, she Def had access to it…the child drew a picture of it, having large similarity to that gun…but it did always baffle me how she could find such a great hide for it in such a short period of time.

I watched the paroles hearing in 08, was lucky to find it, it was streamed live at the time…my sister, who is a whiz with computers, found it for me.

It does seem time has done worse to her. In fact, watching that was the first time I heard her voice and saw her presence, it was a year or so later that old interviews showed up on YouTube.

I am a strong believer that pregnancy can do serious harm to some women. Most get through it fine, maybe some complications or pain, maybe even some post pardum.

Women who were somewhat normal begore, get pregnant, have the baby, then drown it a toilet, kill or beat the the baby in the first year.. Diane downs.

Regina, I love your comment! So many of the cases Lise writes about on this blog either have no forensic evidence that supports the verdict or have very misleading forensic evidence that may or may not support the verdict, depending on who is interpreting it.

I agree that the verdict may have been very different. It could have been very different at almost any other time or with any other attorneys or juries too.

I like the way you keep an open mind about Diane herself and what she may or may not have been going through mentally.

I agree about pregnancy and childbirth affecting women differently, and even having different effects for the same woman with different pregnancies.

Very little is definitively known in this area. I feel sorry for Diane too. Mainly because she is being kept caged due to her name recognition at this point, not her offense.

Guilt or innocence no longer need to be debated in this case. Justice is all that is left. Is it just to continue to punish her so long after she is obviously no longer a danger in any way to anyone?

I know several people who know or knew both of the surviving children as well as Diane. You paint a picture that is actually inaccurate and misleading.

The woman shot her children. She is a monster and belongs in prison for the rest of her life. Then feel free to correct the facts and to provide evidence to support them.

I know people who know or knew people is not a valid argument. But I am more than willing to review any new info. The lawsuit against Ann Rule was thrown out as unfounded because after reading her book they could find no inconsistencies She sat thru the entire trial AND used actual court transcripts.

Gun shot residue is not always present. Danny downs did indeed say a man shot him he also blamed a cartoon character.

Either way he could NOT have seen who shot him unless he has eyes in the back of his head. He WAS shot in the back remember.

Diane was NOT arrested for almost a year after the shootings the d. Christie NEVER said she didnt know who did it she was just unwilling or afraid to tell on her mother.

It was pitch black outside. Most importantly why would anybody shoot 3 children potentially fatally and leave the adult with a wound in her arm.

Oh 1 more thing I see a lot of comments on pro Diane web sights that say well she drove them to the hospital. It was demonstrated at trial that the shooter shot the kids at close range.

The person leaned into the car. Except after the idea was subsequently planted in his head only to be alluded to in court, in spite of an agreement to never mention the subject.

Yes, Christie said she did not know who did it. And they kept at her and made suggestions when she would not implicate her mom.

She was interrogated without a representative from the defense and was not taped for the most part.

Nowadays, this insanity would never be tolerated. I will agree that it was suspicious that Diane got away with one bullet in the arm, even if the injury was severe, but she was outside the car and many scenarios are possible to that effect.

The timing of her arrival at the hospital should have been discussed and explained in more details. They said she was going slow but the time at which she arrived seems to indicate otherwise.

The fact that she drove there and it saved the life of two of her children should give anyone pause. She could have stayed on the side of the road.

In my opinion, the investigation was too hasty and only focused on Diane. They never found the gun and she showed no signs of having fired one.

They should have looked for a possible accomplice and checked all the leads. The way this investigation and the trial were conducted only left me with doubts.

She was judged very harshly for her character and her defense was dismal. I think that she has done enough time and should be released.

If not from her high profile status, she would already be out. Foote then handled the juvenile docket and first encountered Downs when he ordered her two surviving children into state protective custody.

Because Foote was already familiar with the case, the presiding judge assigned him the murder trial after Downs was charged with the shootings.

It is called a conflict of interest. Plus, you do not let a newly appointed judge to criminal cases, preside over a high profile murder case when he has no experience whatsoever and has already prejudged the defendant dangerous to her children.

You seem to believe everyone is innocent. Needless to say, you seem to have a problem with the American justice system…not each individual case.

For all you readers of this blogger, I lived through the Diane Downs case. I lived through the media coverage.

I followed the trial. At that time…and now!! This blogger apparently believes anything she hears to support her inaccurate theory that Diane Downs was falsely accused and convicted.

This blogger thinks that if you had bothered reading the blogs that you just mentioned, you would know that I do not call anyone innocent.

Except for Paul Cortez. I state that it is not my place to judge innocence or guilt. I point out some obvious facts and discrepancies, and that due process was shoved aside because the state and the media presented a guilty image right from the start.

You do not refute any of the points I made in the blogs. The gun problem or the absence of blood and powder residues are not make believe.

The fact that there was a rush to judgment, an investigation targeting only one result and a media coverage often presenting lies is very bothersome.

And what happened to her little daughter is beyond unethical. You cannot skip due process because of mob mentality. If Oregonians were not all convinced at first, the media and the crown made sure they would be.

You seem to forget that even a few jurors started by voting not guilty on some of the charges. But you would know that if you had read the blog or info about the case.

This is a fascinating and informative article that has answered some questions I had, and prompted others:. How was DD able to get away from CK and get the keys back into the ignition without there being more attempts on her life?

CK was willing to take, or attempt to take, the lives of 4 people in order to steal their car. He failed. So, were there any other attempted carjackings in the area that night?

If not, why not? He needed, now more than ever, to vacate the area asap. While these are all good questions, and were maybe all asked in the jury room during deliberations I doubt the answers even matter anymore.

My question is: why is she still locked up? Every single one of these questions matter. Every single one.

I would love to hear your answers to them. Instead of talking about her being locked up for so long, answer some very legitimate questions regarding this case.

The answers to those questions do not matter anymore. I think she was the only one there that night with her children.

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